Down Down, a creep around you, set a road to the deep east, Down Down, a creep around you, setting a road to the deep east, Down Down.... SEE NEW WORLD!!
*If you have something to say about this Kitano vs. Matsumoto series, please comment on this entry.
-- It looks Matsumoto's 'Dai Nihonjin' will succeed , at least commercially. 'Dai-Nihonjin' gathered 157,000 people last eek end and earned almost 300 million yens a week. It was ranked at #2 in the income ranking in Japan, next to 'Pirates of the Caribbean' , more than 'Spider-man 37. (Kitano's 'Kantoku Banzai' was #10.) As a debut work, this number is incredible, and it's absolutely true that he attracted a lot of movie audience by his comedy, just as he did on TV 10 years ago.
However, at this point, I don't think Mr Matsumoto will become the movie director who leads Japan 20 years later, just like Kitano Takeshi does today. Artistically, his work is very poor, and I couldn't find the possibility from his debut work.
Especially, as an export product, this comedy is very poor, again. To understand this comedy, the people living in foreign countries need a lot of prerequisite to understand this work; for example, knowledge on 70's Tokusatsu movies, mixed marital arts, the hierarchy of Japanese comedians , and off course, Japanese culture. In addition, Matsumoto requires a very delicate sense of humor, and even a Japanese needs some years to understand his point of view. That's his comedy.
*If you can laugh with this skit, it may be enough to understand 'dai nihonjin' though. 'Dai Nihonjin' is lying on the extension of this comedy made over 12 years ago.
It is very contrary to 'internationally sophisticated' Kitano Takeshi's newest comedy. There are some jokes which only the Japanese old may laugh, but his world is opened to the world, and I guess while a gaijin finds 1 point to laugh in Matsumoto's movie, I think he or she can laugh for 3 times at Kitano's one. For example, the world-famous French headbutter is parodied in 'Kantoku!Banzai', and Takeshi's figure transforms into him.
However, if you need something just to console you when you are sad, I have to say, you'd better see other Japanese product in another format. I bet 'Ouran High School Host Club' -will make you laugh more in more simple way. Or, even 'Bishojo Club Panchanne' may be enough.
To be frank, both 'Dai Nihonjin' and 'Kantoku Banzai' must be failed works, not only as movies, but also comedies. When two prodigies who lead Japanese comedy in 80s and 90s created comedy movie, ironically, the works just became fossils which captured 'what they thought interesting' decades ago. 'Dai Nihonjin' may look very innovative, for an ex-fan of Matsumoto like me, it looked the same thing as what he did 10 years ago.
So, at this point, as far as judging from these comedy works from two geniuses, the chance that 'J-comedy' will become the competitive product like anime or visual rock will be very little- less than J-idol music.
However, among these boring comedies, our hope, international Kitano showed us his infinite possibility as a film maker. According to an interview, he is now coming back to the 'violence movie' wold again, and his next work will be like the one. I'm very looking forward to this movie, and just like 'Kids Return' after 'Minna Yatteruka', the next work will be another masterpiece from him with a lot of beautiful Kitano-blue.
As for Matsumoto, we'd better think he is just a hero of televised comedy, not a talented film maker. Supported by the commercial success, it's sure that he'll make his 2nd work, but I won't expect too much on him anymore.
But even 10 years after his golden age in 90s, it's sure that Matsumoto is still the leading authority of J-comedy. If you want to see the cutting edge of Japanese comedy, or want to know something amuse Japanese the most, 'Dai Nihonjin', or following his works will be the best example.
[the two movies] by ieb
I like both directors as comedians, but I've seen a number of Kitano's films, and enjoy them thoroughly. Still reading your reviews, so I'm just commenting to leave a comment! lol
[] by santos26
^Thanks for leaving the comment, I'd thought there are almost nobody who are interested in this topic, but you motivated me to write the rest lol.
[] by Ron Smith
I was literally waiting on you to finish the conclusion...lol. Being that I've completely forgotten the two synopsizes since reading them this weekend, one thing I will say is that I really wish that Kitano Takeshi would make it big in Hollywood.
Why directors like Tarantino haven't picked up on him is beyond me. I think he'd be so popular in America if they got him to do an action or action/comedy that...he should have worked harder on "Brother," because I think that haulted him from crossing over. I think he could have made it a few years ago, when there was the period where Takeshi's Castle/MXC was REALLY huge amongst 18-25 year old males like myself - plus that action movie he was in where all the high school kids kill each other in some kind of "battle" was a cult hit for hardcore action fans.
What was the name of that movie? lol
[] by santos26
^That's 'Battle Royal'.
I think in 'Brother', Takeshi demonstrated that he can't work for Hollywood. Like European directors, he loves to do something artistic better than something commercial, or entertaining.
But if the person who understands Kitano's movie and his world well, like Tarantino or Scorsese, produces the work and controls other situation, he can create a masterpiece of action or violence in Hollywood like John Woo. He's already 60 years old, so I wish somebody materializes this plan in the nearest future lol.
[] by Ron Smith
It's funny, cause when I first saw him in Battle Royale, the first thing I thought was that this guy reminds me of Vince McMahon...he's bad ass, but there's a sense of humor that he exudes, even when he is being tough. A good example is a line from his Brother movie, where he shoots a guy under the table for calling him "jap."
I think Brother mostly failed though because it wasn't ran in enough theaters. I was only about 15 when it came out, but I remember it playing in one small artsy theater that was miles from where I lived - and I live in a major city! lol
Another director who I think can do Takeshi justice is Brett Ratner, the guy who does the Rush Hour movies with Jackie Chan. Takeshi's dead pan humor contrasting with a bit of American slapstick over some action would make for a decent, though admittedly cliche, flick.
[] by auroragb
Is that Shinohara Ryoko? Wow, so young!
[] by santos26
>Ron the point you mentioned is very interesting. Many Japanese believe that 'Brother' was ran in a lot of thereters in the United States and advertised well, but failed. But the truth is not so simple. (It's true Brother couldn't intrigue and attract a major companies in Hollywood and hence the situation occured, though.)
>auroragb She is. Originally, she became famous this comedy with Downtown, hence her debut as a singer was pretty shocking at that time. And I still can't believe she is still a fmaous actor who was admired by a lot of women in Japan lol.
I like both directors as comedians, but I've seen a number of Kitano's films, and enjoy them thoroughly. Still reading your reviews, so I'm just commenting to leave a comment! lol
I was literally waiting on you to finish the conclusion...lol. Being that I've completely forgotten the two synopsizes since reading them this weekend, one thing I will say is that I really wish that Kitano Takeshi would make it big in Hollywood.
Why directors like Tarantino haven't picked up on him is beyond me. I think he'd be so popular in America if they got him to do an action or action/comedy that...he should have worked harder on "Brother," because I think that haulted him from crossing over. I think he could have made it a few years ago, when there was the period where Takeshi's Castle/MXC was REALLY huge amongst 18-25 year old males like myself - plus that action movie he was in where all the high school kids kill each other in some kind of "battle" was a cult hit for hardcore action fans.
What was the name of that movie? lol
2007/06/07(木) 23:13:25 | URL | Ron Smith #yIEJIxBY [Edit]
^That's 'Battle Royal'.
I think in 'Brother', Takeshi demonstrated that he can't work for Hollywood. Like European directors, he loves to do something artistic better than something commercial, or entertaining.
But if the person who understands Kitano's movie and his world well, like Tarantino or Scorsese, produces the work and controls other situation, he can create a masterpiece of action or violence in Hollywood like John Woo. He's already 60 years old, so I wish somebody materializes this plan in the nearest future lol.
It's funny, cause when I first saw him in Battle Royale, the first thing I thought was that this guy reminds me of Vince McMahon...he's bad ass, but there's a sense of humor that he exudes, even when he is being tough. A good example is a line from his Brother movie, where he shoots a guy under the table for calling him "jap."
I think Brother mostly failed though because it wasn't ran in enough theaters. I was only about 15 when it came out, but I remember it playing in one small artsy theater that was miles from where I lived - and I live in a major city! lol
Another director who I think can do Takeshi justice is Brett Ratner, the guy who does the Rush Hour movies with Jackie Chan. Takeshi's dead pan humor contrasting with a bit of American slapstick over some action would make for a decent, though admittedly cliche, flick.
2007/06/08(金) 06:37:35 | URL | Ron Smith #yIEJIxBY [Edit]
>Ron the point you mentioned is very interesting. Many Japanese believe that 'Brother' was ran in a lot of thereters in the United States and advertised well, but failed. But the truth is not so simple. (It's true Brother couldn't intrigue and attract a major companies in Hollywood and hence the situation occured, though.)
>auroragb She is. Originally, she became famous this comedy with Downtown, hence her debut as a singer was pretty shocking at that time. And I still can't believe she is still a fmaous actor who was admired by a lot of women in Japan lol.
I like both directors as comedians, but I've seen a number of Kitano's films, and enjoy them thoroughly. Still reading your reviews, so I'm just commenting to leave a comment! lol
^Thanks for leaving the comment, I'd thought there are almost nobody who are interested in this topic, but you motivated me to write the rest lol.
I was literally waiting on you to finish the conclusion...lol. Being that I've completely forgotten the two synopsizes since reading them this weekend, one thing I will say is that I really wish that Kitano Takeshi would make it big in Hollywood.
Why directors like Tarantino haven't picked up on him is beyond me. I think he'd be so popular in America if they got him to do an action or action/comedy that...he should have worked harder on "Brother," because I think that haulted him from crossing over. I think he could have made it a few years ago, when there was the period where Takeshi's Castle/MXC was REALLY huge amongst 18-25 year old males like myself - plus that action movie he was in where all the high school kids kill each other in some kind of "battle" was a cult hit for hardcore action fans.
What was the name of that movie? lol
^That's 'Battle Royal'.
I think in 'Brother', Takeshi demonstrated that he can't work for Hollywood. Like European directors, he loves to do something artistic better than something commercial, or entertaining.
But if the person who understands Kitano's movie and his world well, like Tarantino or Scorsese, produces the work and controls other situation, he can create a masterpiece of action or violence in Hollywood like John Woo. He's already 60 years old, so I wish somebody materializes this plan in the nearest future lol.
It's funny, cause when I first saw him in Battle Royale, the first thing I thought was that this guy reminds me of Vince McMahon...he's bad ass, but there's a sense of humor that he exudes, even when he is being tough. A good example is a line from his Brother movie, where he shoots a guy under the table for calling him "jap."
I think Brother mostly failed though because it wasn't ran in enough theaters. I was only about 15 when it came out, but I remember it playing in one small artsy theater that was miles from where I lived - and I live in a major city! lol
Another director who I think can do Takeshi justice is Brett Ratner, the guy who does the Rush Hour movies with Jackie Chan. Takeshi's dead pan humor contrasting with a bit of American slapstick over some action would make for a decent, though admittedly cliche, flick.
Is that Shinohara Ryoko? Wow, so young!
>Ron
the point you mentioned is very interesting. Many Japanese believe that 'Brother' was ran in a lot of thereters in the United States and advertised well, but failed. But the truth is not so simple. (It's true Brother couldn't intrigue and attract a major companies in Hollywood and hence the situation occured, though.)
>auroragb
She is. Originally, she became famous this comedy with Downtown, hence her debut as a singer was pretty shocking at that time. And I still can't believe she is still a fmaous actor who was admired by a lot of women in Japan lol.